New Yamaha Tenor YSL-882OR

choisy

http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/ ... 22&CTID=560423#

dlgy888

这把YSL-882OR
号如何？

范杰

没有882V好！！主要是管子太窄了！！声音不错

choisy

http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/ ... 622&CTID=560423

The very first shipment of these arrived last week to our warehouse, and since it’s a new instrument for us – I’d like to tell a bit more of the story behind the horn.

What’s important?

1) Balanced Response Rotor. To be honest, we made up that term because we didn’t really know what to call it (I think actually Wayne Tanabe at Yamaha Artist Services came up with the term).  The long explanation is that the venting setup in the rotor balances the release in air pressure when changing from the open horn to the engaged F-attachment and back.  The short version is that the rotor feels really smooth.

2) Reversed Tuning Slides.  Both on the main tuning slide and the f-attachment have reversed tuning slides.  This means that in the direction of the airflow through the horn, the slide tubing is stepping ‘out’ into larger tuning.  This help give the player a more open response and creates less resistance.  This instrument is one of the first Yamaha trombones to offer this feature.

3) Top Artist Development. The two major players that had involvement in this project were Larry Zalkind (Principal Trombone – Utah Symphony) and Ko-ichiro Yamamoto (Principal Trombone – Seattle Symphony).  Having players involved in the project that represent that target market has always been important for Yamaha product development.  The goal wasn’t to make a horn as good as what they were already playing, but something that was actually better than their current instrument.  Considering how great both players sound on their Yamaha horns, I’d say mission accomplished on that one.

In fact, we recorded a podcast interview with Ko-ichiro at the 2008 International Trombone Festival where he talks a bit about the horn along with his life and career.

Listen Yamaha Product Marketing Specialist Jon Goldman talk about the YSL-882OR at the 2009 NAMM show.

If you have the chance to check out one of these new horns, we love to hear what you think.  Feel free to drop us a note at bandandorchestra@yamaha.com.

Filed under: Gear, Trombone , Ko-ichiro Yamamoto, Larry Zalkind, YSL-882OR

choisy

I tried  YSL-882V  in Taiwan....not so so...

But didn't  try YSL-882OR yet....anyone tried ?

choisy

范杰, Did you try YSL-882OR ?

范杰

我试过882O 882GO还有882UG2 日本版的，声音很好，管子灵活，震动也不错，非常适合演奏独奏。就是这几款管子的宽度太窄了点，我有点胖脖子觉得顶到活塞了。我用的就是882V，这种管子要宽一些。而且声音还要厚一些。这是我个人观点！！！仅供参考

范杰

YAMAHA882V 也有它不好的地方，F键的行程太长，低音按键不好吹，很一般。个人认为只是样式好看，没有传统的F键好用，呵呵o(∩_∩)o...

范杰

看它的图片，好像是882V的升级版，解决了我上面说的那种新活塞问题，用传统活塞代替直行活塞，而且其它的部分完全就是和882V的一模一样。我想应该不错

choisy

No...
882V tuning slide is same as old Yamaha tuning slide.

new 882OR tuning slide is like Edwards 's tuning slide.

2) Hand 's slide is like Bach ..more wide .

choisy

trombones

好久不来顶一个！

choisy

choisy

We have received many question about the differences between the YSL-882O Xeno trombone and the new YSL-882OR. To really see the differences between these two trombones lets first take a look at the similarities. Both have a .547″ bore, an 8 1/16″ bell, an open-wrap F-attachment and are made of yellow-brass. And that’s about it.

While those 4 features make these trombones similar in a fundamental way, the differences are obvious, and give both trombones their own unique identities.

YSL-882O

The YSL-882O Xeno trombone was developed six years ago with Peter Sullivan, Principal Trombone of the Pittsburgh Symphony. It features a .547″ large bore, an 8 1/16″ yellow-brass bell and an open-wrap F-attachment. The other features include a standard rotor system, narrow hand-slide (ala older style orchestral trombones), standard tuning slide set-up for both the main tuning slide and the F-attachment and a counterweight.

YSL-882OR

The New YSL-882OR Xeno Orchestral Tenor trombone was developed with Larry Zalkind, Principal Trombone of the Utah Symphony and currently Acting Principal Trombone of the Los Angeles Philharmonic. The bore, bell and open wrap F-attachment are the same as the 882O but with some new twists. The 882OR features a wider hand-slide (more indicative of today’s hand-made boutique-style orchestral trombones). Both the main and F-attachment tuning slides are reversed and the bracing between the F-attachment and the main tuning slides have been changed to allow for more vibration of the bell section. From the outside the two rotors look identical, but on the inside they are very different. The rotor on the 882OR is vented to allow for the release of built up air pressure before the rotor engages. The philosophy of the vented rotor is that it reduces the “puff” that can occur when switching from the open trombone to the engaged F-attachment.

The playability of the two trombones are similar in that a common response we have received is “Wow, these are really easy to play.” In terms of sound though they are as different as can be. The YSL-882O has a brilliant sound more reminiscent of older orchestral trombones, while the YSL-882OR has a darker sound that is found in more of today’s modern orchestras. While words such as brilliant and dark may be fundamental characteristics of these trombones, their versatility by no means limits them to those particular words. Both instruments have the flexibility to produce a wide range of tonal colors and are equal to the tasks set forth by a vast range of orchestral repertoire.

In addition to Larry Zalkind (Utah Symphony, Los Angeles Philharmonic), Yamaha Artist Ko-ichiro Yamamoto (Seattle Symphony) is also currently using the YSL-882OR.