雅马哈小号型号解析

Arthur

原帖由 Edward1997 于 2011-11-10 16:39 发表
好贴，辛苦了，谢谢马老师！
根据我所知道的作一些细微补充：
没有后缀字母的大多是清漆，但也有部分镀镍银型号不加后缀。
ML管径根据YAMAHA官网给出的数据应为11.65mm（0.459“）。
一些型号尾数为”10“的确实 ...

多谢补充   已更新为中国官网数据
很多乐器型号没有S或者N做后缀原因是乐器本身表面处理一目了然，最近几年出的乐器全部在号身上都不带S了，但是好像号箱里的说明书和外包装箱子上的乐器编号会写上S。
ML管径的尺寸是0.459英寸，中国官网确实给出的是11.65mm的数据，但是美国的官网上却是11.67mm的数据。那么这个中间一定是换算的问题，英寸标记是一样的。所以这个东西就参考一下好了。

roseduan1998

8335RGS 的R是reverse  tuning 反套管声音的意思。巴哈系列各个型号都有反套管的号BACH LR180-37就是反套管的，LT180-37是轻量设计的37

Arthur

8335RGS是HEAVY MOUTHPIPE

litrumpet

雅马哈短号大部分管径是11.73，为什么第三位数字是3？

happy_hkhappy

請問,Yamaha 小號質量是否真的每支也差不多
那是否可以不用試就買下呢?

卟肥佬1010

基本上可以这么说，实在没有机会试的话这样买的话质量差别也不会很大，毕竟YAMAHA的东西算是很精细的了

roseduan1998

雅马哈小号将停产1335、2335还有之前的Q系列小号，取而代之的是雅马哈 200T、200R小号，星海音乐学院李国安教授、首席小号许宇翔去贵阳参加了新小号发布会活动。200小号介于1335和2335之间（许宇翔语），零售价格为3580元人民币。

happy_hkhappy

那會不會有新系代替8字系列?
新系價格好像又升了....

roseduan1998

8系列继续保有，9系列装了最新式哨管。1335、2335、200T、200R主要是面对中国的学生用的，为中国学生专门设计、量身定做，价格和式样都是。

litrumpet

金铜和黄铜有什么区别？

Arthur

原帖由 litrumpet 于 2012-11-19 11:08 发表
金铜和黄铜有什么区别？

金铜声音更暗沉，浑厚，声音集中。
黄铜明亮，松弛一些

litrumpet

雅马哈短号大部分管径是11.73，为什么第三位数字是3？

空谷

1.        Yamaha trumpet/cornet/flugel models & production years
In looking for the mythical list of Yamaha serial numbers, I found this through a
link from a post on 'that other trumpet site'. It's apparently been translated directly from the Japanese version and I've cleaned it up a bit and saved it in an
older version of MS Word. I've tried 10 times to attach it here without success so I'm copying the file info below, even though much of the formatting is lost. If anyone can tell me how to post the MS Word doc, I'll post that asap.

While the info doesn't have serial numbers, it does have a near-complete listing of trumpet, cornet & flugelhorn models, the years in which they were sold, info bell types, triggers, and finishes, etc. and could be very useful for those of us
who need to narrow down the heritage of a particular horn.
__________________________________________________ _____________

YAMAHA MODEL HISTORY for TRUMPETS, CORNETS, FLUGELHORNS

LETTER CODES
Y refers to Yamaha
TR is trumpet
CR is cornet
FH is Flugelhorn

GRADE (BUILD QUALITY)
1-3 : entry level /college
6 & 7-9: professional

KEY
3 = Bb
4 = C
5 = D
6 = Eb (Eb-D)
7 = FG
8 = A-HighBb (Picc.)

SERIAL NUMBERING
Four-digits utilized since 1982.

BORE
1 = M bore, 127mm
2 = ML bore bell design, 127mm bell design
3 = ML bore, 123mm
4 = L level specification bore, 123mm bell design

SERIAL LETTERING
Z = (unknown)
H = Xeno heavy type (2001 onwards)
F = fanfare trumpet
R = reverse leadpipe (Zeno only) NOTE: verify this
S = silver-plate
T = trigger
II = improved version

BORE
S = 10.50mm
MS = 11.00mm
M = 11.30mm
ML = 11.68mm
L = 11.73mm (of 2001)

A: 127mm diameter, equivalent to L bore; Bb pipe only; M is used in combination with the bore.
B: 127mm diameter, equivalent to ML bore; Bb pipe & C pipe; originally the standard level.
D: 120mm diameter, D tube only.
YL , YL-II: 123mm diameter, 37 Bell model; Bb pipe only; current standards.
YR: 123mm diameter, GB often in combination with L bore material. Bb pipe only.
YS, YS-II, YS-III: 126mm diameter, C tube only. II, III is an improved version of its 123mm diameter, rather thin.
YM: 123mm diameter, C tube only.
YQ: 121mm diameter, C tube only.
E: 110mm diameter, Eb tube only.
YK, YK: 95mm diameter for piccolo; G101mm diameter pipe, for piccolo.
CR2: 119mm diameter pipe, only Bb cornet Short.
CR3: 119mm diameter pipe, only Bb cornet Short.
CR4: 119mm diameter pipe, only Eb cornet Short.
CR5: 125.5mm diameter, short Xeno cornet only.
FH1: 152mm diameter for flugelhorn.

FINISH
NP = nickel plate & gold lacquer
SP = silver-plate
GP = gold plate
__________________________________________________ ________

Model Key Bore Bell Bell Finish Price Sales Period
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YTR-135 Bb M B YB NP 26.5 1972-1977
YTR-136 M B YB NP 32.5 1977-1982
YTR-1310 M B YB NP 40 1982-1991
YTR-1310S M B YB SP 52 1987-1991
YTR-1320 ML B YB NP 45 1991-1998
YTR-1320S ML B YB SP 55 1991-1998
YTR-1335 ML YL-II YB LQ 45 1998-
YTR-1335S ML YL-II YB SP 55 1998-
YTR-233 M B YB LQ 36 1972-1977
YTR-234 ML B YB LQ 40 1972-1977
YTR-235 M B YB LQ 45 1977-1982
YTR-236 ML B YB LQ 47 1977-1982
YTR-2310 M B YB LQ 54 1982-1991
YTR-2321 ML B YB LQ 69 1982-1991
YTR-2320S ML B YB LQ 69 1987-1991
YTR-2320E ML B YB LQ 58 1991-1998
YTR-2320ES ML B YB SP 70 1991-1998
YTR-2335 ML YL-II YB LQ 60 1998-
YTR-2335S ML YL-II YB SP 72 1998-

Model Key Bore Bell Bell Finish Price Sales Period
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YTR-332 Bb M B RB LQ 55 1972-1977
YTR-333 ML B RB LQ 70 1977-1982
YTR-334S ML B YB SP 86 1977-1982
YTR-3320 ML B RB LQ 79 1982-1991
YTR-3320S ML B YB SP 94 1982-1991
YTR-3325 ML B RB LQ 86 1991-1994
YTR-3325S ML B YB SP 98 1991-1994
YTR-4325G ML B GB LQ 95 1994-1998
YTR-4325GS ML B GB SP 107 1994-1998
YTR-4335G ML YL-II GB LQ 95 1998-
YTR-4335GS ML YL-II GB SP 107 1998-

Model Key Bore Bell Bell Finish Price Sales Period
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YTR-1 Bb M - RB2P LQ - 1968-1971?
YTR-632 Bb M A RB2P LQ 92 1972-1977
YTR-732 M A YB2P SP 100 1972-1977
YTR-634 ML B RB2P LQ 92 1972-1977
YTR-734 ML B YB2P SP 100 1972-1977
YTR-641 C M RB2P LQ 93 1972-1975
YTR-741 M YB2P SP 98 1972-1975
YTR-651 D M RB2P LQ 103 1972-1975
YTR-751 M YB2P SP 108 1972-1975
YTR-661 Eb ML RB2P LQ 103 1972-1975
YTR-761 ML YB2P SP 108 1972-1975
YTR-636 Bb M A YB2P GLQ 135 1977-1982
YTR-736 M A YB2P SP 150 1977-1982
YTR-637 ML B YB2P GLQ 135 1977-1982
YTR-737 ML B YB2P SP 150 1977-1982
YTR-739T L YR GB2P SP 167 1977-1982 1st trigger
YTR-6310 M A YB1P GLQ 155 1982-1987
YTR-6320 ML B YB1P GLQ 155 1982-1994
YTR-6320S ML B YB1P SP 170 1982-1994
YTR-6340ST L YR GB1P SP 175 1987-1994 1st trigger
YTR-6321F ML B YB1P GLQ 190 1987-1998
YTR-6310Z M A YB1P GLQ 160 1994- B.Shew
YTR-6310ZS M A YB1P SP 172 1994- B.Shew
YTR-6330F ML YL-II YB1P GLQ 180 1998-
YTR-6610S Eb M YB1P SP 160 1994- D fittings
YTR-6810S Hi-Bb S YB1P SP 160 1994 -

Model Key Bore Bell Bell Finish Price Sales Period
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
YTR-901 Bb M YC YB LQ 150 1971-1975
YTR-902 M A RB SP 150 1971-1975
YTR-903 ML B YB LQ 150 1971-1975
YTR-904 ML A YB SP 150 1971-1975
YTR-905 L A RB LQ 150 1971-1975
YTR-906 L B YB LQ 150 1971-1975
YTR-911 ML A, B YB SP 170 1971-1975
YTR-921 ML YL YB LQ 150 1971-1975
YTR-922 ML YN YB LQ 150 1971-1975
YTR-923 ML YO YB LQ 150 1971-1975
YTR-931M M A YB SP 195 1975-1981
YTR-931ML ML A YB SP 195 1975-1981
YTR-932ML ML A, B? YB SP 230 1975-1981
YTR-933ML ML YL YB CLQ 195 1975-1981
YTR-933L L YL YB CLQ 195 1975-1981
YTR-934ML ML YR YB CLQ 195 1975-1981
YTR-934L L YR YB SP 195 1975-1981
YTR-9310M M A YB1P SP 230 1981-1982
YTR-9320ML ML B YB1P SP 230 1981-1982
YTR-9330ML ML YL YB1P SP 230 1981-1982
YTR-9335ML ML YL YB1P SP 230 1981-1982
YTR-9340L L YR GB1P SP 230 1981-1982
YTR-9345L L YR GB1P SP 230 1981-1982
YTR-8335 ML YL-II YB1P CLQ 205 1982-1994
YTR-8335S ML YL-II YB1P SP 220 1982-1994
YTR-8345S L YR GB1P SP 220 1982-1994
YTR-8330ST ML YL-II YB1P SP 230 1982-1987 (1st trigger)
YTR-8330S ML YL-II YB1P SP 220 1987-1994
YTR-8335H ML YL-II YB1P CLQ 213 1987-1994
YTR-8335HS ML YL-II YB1P SP 225 1987-1994
YTR-8335HG ML YL-II GB1P CLQ 218 1991-1994
YTR-8335HGS ML YL-II GB1P SP 230 1991-1994
YTR-800G ML YR GB1P CLQ 183 1991-
YTR-800GS ML YR GB1P SP 195 1991-
YTR-800 ML YR YB1P CLQ 192 1994-
YTR-800S ML YR YB1P SP 180 1994-
YTR-8335U ML YL-II YB1P CLQ 213 1991-1994
YTR-8335US ML YL-II YB1P SP 225 1991-1994
YTR-8335UII ML YL-II YB1P CLQ 213 1994-2001
YTR-8335USII ML YL-II YB1P SP 225 1994-2001
YTR-8335UGII ML YL-II GB1P CLQ 218 1994-2001
YTR-8335UGSII ML YL-II GB1P SP 230 1994-2001
YTR-8335UGRS ML YL-II GB1P SP 245 1998-2001
YTR-8335 (Xeno) ML YL-II YB1P CLQ 213 2001-
YTR-8335S (Xeno) ML YL-II YB1P SP 225 2001-
YTR-8335G ML YL-II GB1P CLQ 218 2001-
YTR-8335GS ML YL-II GB1P SP 230 2001-
YTR-8335RGS ML YL-II GB1P SP 245 2001-
YTR-907 C M A YB SP 150 1971-1975
YTR-908 ML B RB LQ 150 1971-1975
YTR-909 L A YB LQ 150 1971-1975
YTR-912 ML A, B YB SP 170 1971-1975
YTR-924 ML YM YB LQ 150 1971-1975
YTR-941ML ML CLQ 195 1975-1981
YTR-941L L CLQ 195 1975-1981
YTR-942ML ML SP 230 1975-1981
YTR-943L L SP 195 1975-1981
YTR-944L L CLQ 195 1975-1981
YTR-9410L L YM YB1P SP 230 1981-1991
YTR-9420L L B YB1P SP 230 1981-1991
YTR-9430L L YQ YB1P SP 230 1981-1991
YTR-9440L L YS YB1P SP 230 1981-1994
YTR-9445L L YS-II YB1P SP 280 1987-1991
YTR-8445HS L YS-III YB1P SP 240 1991-1994
YTR-8445HGS L YS-III GB1P SP 245 1991-1994
YTR-8445USII L YS-III YB1P SP 240 1994-2001
YTR-8445UGSII L YS-III GB1P SP 245 1994-2001
YTR-8445S L YS-III YB1P SP 240 2001-
YTR-8445GS L YS-III GB1P SP 245 2001-
YTR-910 D-Eb M B YB SP 150 1971-1975
YTR-913 M E YB SP 170 1971-1975
YTR-961M M D / D SP 230 1975-1981
YTR-962M M SP 195 1975-1981
YTR-9610 M D / D YB SP 310 1981-
YTR-9620 M YB SP 260 1987-1994
YTR-914 FG M E YB SP 170 1971-1975
YTR-971M M YK/E SP 230 1975-1981
YTR-9710 M YK/ E YB SP 310 1981-
YTR-915 Hi-Bb S YK YB LQ 150 1971-1975 4-valve
YTR-916 M YB SP 1971-1975 3-valve
YTR-917 M RB LQ 1971-1975
4-valve, straight bell
YTR-981 S YK YB LQ 220 1975-1981
extra pipe w 4th valve
YTR-982 M YK Tai YB SP 195 1975-1981
extra pipe w 4th valve
YTR-983Long M YK Tai YB LQ 220 1975-1981
extra pipe w 4th valve
YTR-9810 S YK YB SP 295 1981-1998
extra pipe w 4th valve
YTR-9820C M YK Tai YB SP 310 1987 -
YTR-9830 M YK Tai YB SP 295 1981 -
extra pipe w 4th valve
YTR-9910 M YK Tai YB SP 305 1981-1998
extra pipe w 4th valve

德龙413

挺不错的 新手表示受益匪浅！

最在山水间

了解到金铜与黄铜的特点，有收获。谢谢马老师。